Source: CANVA

The Case for the Correct Objective Case

Good advice for you and me.

Edward Thomas
2 min readJan 6, 2022

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Is it just me?

Is it because of my classical Catholic education during which we had grammar hammered into our heads day after day?

I don’t want to be a grammar Nazi, but hearing people who should know better (announcers, politicians, educators) use “I” as part of a multiple-noun object drives me up a wall. It gives me a feeling akin to someone raking their fingernails down a blackboard.

I am talking about things like:

  • Thanks for meeting with Mike and I.
  • She talked to my wife and I about the problem.
  • They called Mary and I to thank us.
  • Keep this between you and I.

Arrrrrrgh…!

The Quick and Dirty

Here is a quick and dirty way to find out which first-person pronoun you need to use.

Just remove the other objects from the sentence and see what happens to the first-person pronoun. In the case of the above examples, it immediately becomes apparent that “I” is wrong (because it is the subjective case).

  • Thanks for meeting with I. => Thanks for meeting with me.
  • She talked to I about the problem. => She talked to me about the problem.
  • They called Mary I to thank us. => They called me to thank us.

Adding another object does not change the case of the first-person pronoun, so the correct form of these sentences would be:

  • Thanks for meeting with Mike and me.
  • She talked to my wife and me about the problem.
  • They called Mary and me to thank us.

As for the final sentence, “between you and I” is never correct. It is always “between you and me.”

  • Keep this between you and me.

Objective Case Pronouns

me, us, him, her, them, whom

Note that there is no “I” among the objective case pronouns.

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Edward Thomas
Edward Thomas

Written by Edward Thomas

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